The cost of addiction

Have you heard of or know about a medication called Suboxone for the treatment of opiod dependence? What were the reults of this treatment?

My husband has tried virtually every other form of treatment and nothing has worked. We would like to try this medication, but any substance abuse center I call says they don't prescribe anti-addiction medications. We'll try his family doctor, but are sure he will be reluctant to prescribe. What recourses do we have to try this?

if insurance pays for fat people it should pay for addicts. however, insurance should be much higher so they cannot spend the money on that which harms them. healthy people who keep fit should benefit from lower insurance costs.

My first experience with buprenorphine (aka suboxone) was in the mid 1990's in a residential drug treatment program. My reaction was miraculous...Unfortunately, I only received the med for three days. Those were the three most normal days for me in twenty, yes, twenty years.

I sought treatment as soon as I was discharged. I also resumed drug use (vics, oxy, etc.). I consumed an average of 40 extra stregth vics/day and as many oxys as I could get my hands on.

I remained an addict for four more years...during which I came close to suicide. I have had an additional problem since my mid-twenties. I suffered from unrelenting, ever worsening depression. My life-long disease of depression triggered my addiction which started in my mid-forties and worsened and progressed along with my depression.

I had a psychotic episode during the summer/fall of 2001 and was involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. To make this long story short: While hospitalized my doctor told me that ALL opiate addicts had a deficiency in the brain chemical dopamine. I was astonished that in over twenty years of psychotherapy and over a decade of treatment for opiate addiction not a single doctor or care provider had told me that. I asked the doctor what meds were available for a dopamine deficiency. The answer was only one drug, Wellbutrin, but that it was an extremely mild dopaminergic, meaning it only stimulated dopamine very slightly.

I immediately resumed my addiction upon release, but this time I resumed my search for buprenorphine. I also tried Wellbutrin. Usual result, increasing depression and opiates use.

Then...Suboxone was approved in October, 2001, and I was released in January, 2002. I began a frantic search for Suboxone and no doctors in my area and elsewhere would treat me. My own addiction doc dismissed the idea, saying, "That's just trading one addiction for another." I was livid and discovered that ignorance and bigotry about opiate addiction was widespread, even among addiction doctors.

I had also insisted during all those years of my addiction that depression was at its core...No one ever listened or took me seriously.

Finally, I found a Suboxone doc and my addiction instantly disappeared AS DID MY DEPRESSION!

Almost seven years later, I still take 8 mgs/day of Suboxone and probably will for the rest of my life. It is my "insulin" for my disordered brain. The disappearance of depression was as significant for me as was the relief from addiction. I had been an addict for 7-8 yrs., but a depressive for thirty or more years.

I am convinced that my addiction and my depression originated from a brain disease of dopamaine chemical imbalance. Both depression and the opiate/opiod addiction would have killed me. But suboxone saved me.

i am a recovering drug addict with just over 8 years clean i struggled with addiction for years it was not until i admitted i had a problem that i could start on the road to recovery i think awarnes is the key i am able to go unto schools to carry the message of recovery and drug awarness i did not know there was a nother way and there was help out there in the way of 12 step programs and once i hit a meeting a realized that the seed of recovery was planted after that there was no excuse i knew there was another way!! your in loving service rick k canada ontario

After viewing your interview with Rick I thought I would share my story. I have many things in common with Rick. I am a recovering addict with 5 1/2 years sobriety. I also went to several recovery centers graduated and made it to multiple months clean and sober just to find myself yet into another spiral of drugs and alcohol. I finally found that the key to continuing sobriety has been the ongoing weekly AA meetings, daily contact with my sponsor and most of all my conscience contact with my higher power. The program of recovery is a WE program and not a ME program.

Thank you, Dr. Gupta for featuring one of this country's millions of people who are in long term recovery in your discussion of addiction. Too often, the public is only exposed to those who aren't given adequate treatment or those who stumble while dealing with this very chronic illness. I have been in long term recovery from addiction for 15 years. I stumbled a little while before that, but my ultimate recovery shows that treatment and continued recovery support really do work. Thank you for showing the other side of the story.

I was surprised that the promos for your show even mention the fact that willpower is an issue with alcoholics. However, I'm thinking that possibly you're drawing people in (who might believe that willpower is a factor) and happy to see that you will be discussing drugs that can help alcoholics.

I had suffered from many years of addiction to pain medication. I was prescribed suboxone by an addiction specialist. My experience with this drug may surprise you. Suboxone is just a replacement for pain meds. I went into treatment and many of the patients were getting prescribed suboxone. I was there to get off of the suboxone and find a new way of life. There will come a time when you are weened off of suboxone and if there isn't a strong 12 step program that you attend
"Nothing changes if Nothing changes"

There should be more programs for the young, addicted adults who are uninsured. They are seen in the county funded ER with an overdose, treated and then discharged with info on followup treatment centers that have long waiting lists. Then you have all these places advertising treatment on TV, but no offers of financial assistance. It's scary to think what's happening to these kids in the meantime.
Thank you, Dr Gupta for all your excellent reporting.

You are missing the boat in large part. In fact the very title of your program, "Addiction: Life on the Edge," misses the boat, or point, in that it creates a very incorrect implication - that even as a reforming addict, for the rest of your life you will, at best, have to keep struggling to keep some sort of balance "on the edge," lest you fall back into the abyss of addiction.
That is simply not true for hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of card-carrying members of AA and other programs based on the 12 steps of AA. Just go to some 12-step meetings (many are open to anyone) and ask around. Follow some of the members around. Check it out. See if many at all seem to be working, in any real sense, to maintain balance. You will find that most are simply free of any desire or need to drink or use anymore. They are truly "happy, joyous and free" of their addiction, as long as they continue doing a few simple things.
Now don't get me wrong. I think rehab programs generally are great too. And I am very encouraged to hear about new medicines that evidently can curb an addict's desire/compulsion to drink or use. Why not use every tool available in the battle against addiction?
But the point is that yours was simply one more program about addiction and recovery that barely touched on AA and what the program is about. If you didn't miss the boat entirely, you did miss a very big part of it.

I have family members on suboxone. They have been clean for over 18 months. It has helped them turn their lives around. They live in fear of it being taken away from them. It is a controlled substance and can only be prescribed by certain Drs. These Drs. can only treat a certain amount of patients so there is a waiting list. Suboxone is very expensive and then add the Dr. visit and a drug test (not the 30$ kit) and it really is cost prohibitive to an addict who doesn't have insurance or a job. I don't know why it can't be available to more addicts ,because it is cheaper than a rehab or the court system. My relative went from being an opiate addict to holding down a 4.0 GPA. It works for those who are really serious about staying clean. I have my reservations that 12 step programs are for everyone. No doubt they are a lifesaver for many, but others I know say that it is very depressing to go to meetings and talk about drugs and problems that they are trying to stay away from. We need to approach drug treatment in different ways because the problem is only getting bigger with so many people abusing prescription drugs.

Hazelden saved my life seven years ago. Plagued by alcoholic relapses for nearly 15 years, I just could't stay sober. After 28 days of intense medical, psychological and spiritual counseling I left Hazelden with tools and knowledge that launched my recovery. Now I attend AA meetings on a regular basis and return to Hazelden periodically for 3-4 day educational retreats. Sobriety is hard work, but with that life-changing experience, I truly believe I can make it "one day at a time."

I have a 19 year old son who is a Heroin addict. He has been in and out of rehab programs 6 or 7 times. Along with his addiction he has OCD, anxiety and depression.
He is being medicated for ALL of them.
I don't beleive the suboxone is effected. If it is not taken properly, melted under the tongue, it does not help the addict. Many times he would not take it or just swallow it whole. Again, NOT being effected.
I think Suboxone is a waste of time.
His last visit in Rehab was suppose to be a 30 day program. He opted to stay only 9 days. There he was not allowed to be on Suboxone, so before he left the inpatient program at the hospital he had to wean off the suboxone, which he did. I dont beleive he is ready to make a committment to recovery.
After his 9 days he went back to see his psychiatrist, who put him back on the suboxone. Again to me a BIG WASTE of time.
I beleive he has underlying issues which is making him want to use.
Until he is ready to make a change in his life my hands are tied.
I hate this illness. However often times I wonder how this illness can kill so many and our government doesnt push the issue to find a cure.
If the meds mentioned on the show can stop an addict from using, I am on board with that.

Our insurance will only pay for 21 days inpatient and 20 days intensive outpatient treatment. I am appalled at this because the Insurance industries are telling us that our son will be cured from drug addiction in this short time.
He has had relapses and we were stuck paying thousands of dollars because he maxed out the allowable benefits. It seems like if you are not a billionaire you cannot get the medical treatment needed for the illness of addiction.

We're all addicts. Watching the program, I relived my own trauma of quitting smoking. I relapsed many times. Finally, through persistence, I have quit. I haven't had a "puff" for three months. I haven't smoked an entire cigarette for over two years - 25 months. I quit in February 2007 after a near stroke.

I was told smoking was a huge contributor to my clogged arteries. Fear forced me to quit. I was "clean" for about 6 months and then one day, I just couldn't take it and had a puff. I didn't buy a pack, I just smoked a few puffs from an old stale cigarette. It tasted awful and made me cough so I put it out. When I tried to write about not smoking, I always wanted one. So I couldn't even write about my pain or efforts to quit. I couldn't sit at my computer. Eventually, I had to reconfigure my writing room. Quitting any habit is painful.

Drinking, drugs, smoking, food, gambling and even sex addicts who can't stay away from online porn. They lose their jobs over it. ADDICTION. Do more. It's pervasive. I have not smoked over 6 thousand cigarettes. So, if I've had 20 in two years, it's nothing compared to the SIX thousand I have not smoked. We have to work at it every day. It's hard. We need to hear more success stories and those who relapse need to know we all relapse. It's those who keep trying that are successful.

About 5 years ago my husband was treated for alcoholism. Our insurance company did not want to pay for his hospital treatment. His doctor had to write a letter to the insurance company. Her argument was: what is the difference between a smoker causing himself to get cancer and an alcoholic drinking and causing a whole lot of medical problems. Two years ago our insurance sent a letter saying they would no longer pay for any treatment where the diagnosis is alcoholism. Almost two years ago my husband died of alcoholism. Now my son struggles with the disease and his insurance will not pay for any treatment.
Yes, I do think insurance companies should pay for treatment.

My son tried the Soboxone and it was not successful. It might have been successful if they would have done more than just give him a pill. They didn't do any counseling with it to deal with his depression or teach him how to live a drug free life. So pills aren't answers to everything...you need a lot more than just that.
There are only a certain number of doctors who are allowed to prescribe this drug and each doctor is only allowed a certain number of patients that they give this to.
I heard they have waiting lists so it might be a good idea to try to get on one of those..but make sure your husband gets other counseling and things also.

Dr. Gupta,
I am watching your program on addiction. It breaks my heart not only for the children you are showcasing but for my own. I think there is a bigger question out there. I am 56 years old & drugs were around when I was a teenager, however it was only a fringe of society that participated in use. I think the big question is....why are so many of our very young (12 year old) participating. Something is bad wrong in our society. What is it? It is not just bad parenting. I feel I was a very good mother, better than my parents were. I did not participate in drugs even though I had a horrible childhood. My son had a much better childhood & he is a chronic pot user(against all the conversations I have had with him). I seriously want to know why so many good kids are on drugs today. Please help.

Alcoholism is a disease and it does come to us by heredity. I agree that is is more complex to treat than some illnesses but yes it should be covered by insurance ..so many are not treated because of the exorbitant cost of treatment.

I was fascinated by the Addiction: Life on the Edge piece by Dr. Gupta.
I remember hearing on the program that the young man who was a crystal meth addict had biopolar disorder. And, I listened to the interview with Dr. Bankole Johnson about treating addicts with medication. The recovering alcoholic, Walter Kent who took medication seemed to have the most successful recovery. It got me thinking that maybe all addicts actually have a mental illness or brain disorder as Dr. Bankole called it. And, the reason why many addicts relapse is because they need medication in order to recovery. The teenage girl expressed feeling she had that led to her alcohol and drug use maybe these feelings are actually symptoms of depression. Maybe addiction is caused by untreated mental illness and is the result of self medicating. Just a theory.

The show was wonderful and I am impressed that CNN decided to cover such a powerful topic that hits home with everyone one of us. I am curious. will the brain function normally over time when the drug use stops and how long will it take to do so.

Yes addiction should be treated as a disease, it should be treated no different that diabetes or another medical condition. The fact is that research in things like the genome project and other brain research have opened up microbiology and the human body and our knowledge. There should be no question that addiction is a disease of the brain. We know about receptors in the brain and the production of the chemicals in the body and how genetics can play a part. We know that there are regulators in the body that tell it when to produce necessary ions of things such as sodium, potassium etc… we know about hormones and endorphins and how the body produces them and regulates that production and measures when it needs to produce more or less. The science is there, it is just the education of the public and society on a whole needs to be educated so they will accept the fact that addiction is a brain disease. That it can be treated like diabetes or hypertension, yes there is a need for treatment in groups or individually to deal with behaviors and changes needed. We should not forget that diabetes patients need education on carbs, healthy eating, and behaviors. It was not that many years ago that heart attack patients did not have the counseling provided today for them to cope with the changes a major illness has on the family and themselves, I know because I saw first hand how hard it was on my family when my father suffered a massive heart attack and the affect it had on the whole family. So yes I am all for twelve step programs as part of the solution and for families to attend meetings as well. Seems to me we should take an inclusive approach to treatment and encourage what ever works to put the disease in remission. Sadly, until we begin to remove the stigma and educate so it is treated as a medical condition so many are left suffering and without treatment. Anything CNN can do by bringing light to this subject would be appreciated by the many suffering with this illness and by their families and loved ones as well.

After viewing "Addiction; Life on the Edge", I was struck with something that Dr. Gupta was repeatedly told. It was that relapse was a part of recovery.
As a recovering alcoholic with 14 years sober, I can tell you that relapse was NOT and will never be a part of MY recovery.I cannot allow myself the luxury of a relapse.I knew, early on, that any relapse would just be an excuse to NOT do what was needed to stay sober, and I NEEDED to stay sober.If you gave me an inch, I'd be sure to take a mile, knowing that I'd always be welcome back to AA, no matter how many relapses
.I have known many sober people who agree with me. Even though, I lost the trust of my family (to this day), returning to drinking is not an option. Implying that relapse is a part of sobriety can send the wrong message to someone in early sobriety.
I believe, with all my heart, that if I drink again, it will not be a relapse, because I will not be able to stop, and will drink myself to death. Fourteen years sober will be washed away very quickly. Yes, I am hard on myself, but I have to be, because I KNOW the kind of person I really am, and to this day, I STILL have the tendency to look for excuses, any excuses to account for myself.
Even now, I know that I am sober TODAY, and still take my God-given sobriety ONE DAY AT A TIME. I don't know what tomorrow will bring. But utilizing the tools I have acquired over the years, my chances of being sober are good.
Thank you for allowing me to express myself.
Sara Bardsley
Brenham, Texas

I would think what with all the addictions going on, and all the doctors in this country, one of them would have foung something to cure addiction quicker and cheaper by now. I feel no one wants to find a cure, there's too much money involved in addiction. We want to see something concreate done about addictions you put a man on the moon. By the time the drug cortel finish with this country you will be hopping to it.

Yes, I do think that insurance companies should pay for treatment. My son is currently in an inpatient, government funded program, for which I pay very little. He will be released this summer, and my insurance does not cover substance abuse treatments for dependents. He also suffers from severe anxiety, for which he self medicates. I am worried about what will happen in a few months, and am currently seeking different employment that may offer benefits to cover his treatment. He will also be turning 18 in July and will be off of my insurance unless he enrolls in college, which he may not be able to handle if his addiction/anxiety is not under control.

Allison: Depending on the drug's mechanism, long term effects can persist for years. For example, cocaine and amphetamines, with a stronger mechanistic association to the neruotransmitter dopamine, can create persistent problems with memory and attention, in a heavy user, far after they have quit.
Furthermore, benzodiazapines like xanax and valium have also shown to have long term problems with supressing GABA, an endogenous inhibitory neurotransmitter that is also associated with anxiety from opiate dependence. However, opiates, according to recent clinical studies, have some of least critical long term effects in the heavily dependent user. I assume this is because they mimic endorphins by binding the mu-opioid receptor, and this direct activity is most closely related to the bodies natural processes. This is opposed to say cocaine which inhibits the reuptake of norepinephrine and produces effects that differ more greatly from the body's natural mechanisms.

It should absolutely be a required covered treatment. It is an illness like any other and insurance companies need to put an end to shirking their responsibilities.

I’d like to say Hi, and just put my two sense worth in. I read down thru all of your stories and see so much of myself in all of you. I have had problems with alcohol, pain killers, depression, bipolar, a smoker, you name it, and it seems that at one point or another in my life there has always been something that was bringing me down, not to mention three divorces because of it. But guess what folks; there is help out there for everyone. With the help of good Doctors, the right medications at the right time, good counseling, good friends, that stand behind you and pick you up when you think you can’t go any further and of course the most important thing to me was the one on one relationship I have with God. He would let me beat myself up to the point that I could go no further, and let it be known that he will not give you anything you cannot handle, He will intervene, even if it’s on what could be your death bed. Pick you up and carry you tell you can carry yourself again. By no means is my life back to normal, I still struggle every day, but people, just don’t give up on yourselves and with a little help, either professionally or spiritually you will carry on. I never thought I would live past the age of 30, but I am now 53 , still have a good job ,I am beat up ,but I keep right on trucking . I get up every day and wonder what I’m in for today, and for me I just say God make today just a little bit better than yesterday, It doesn’t always work out that way, but at least it puts me in the right state of mind for the day, and I don’t worry about tomorrow Good luck to all of you,
Steve.

unfortunately not all suboxone providers are ethical drs .
some are just in it for the money and create a nightmare for the patients they treat. it is sad that the drs who addict us in the first place arent allowed to provide the cure . the suboxone program has created some drs who are nothing more then thugs with no better morals then the drug dealers on the street .
finding a good suboxone dr is very difficult ..at least in my area .

I have been in recovery for 2 years. After I hit my rock, bottom I sought the help of an addiction doctor. She prescribed suboxone. This drug truly saved my life. There are many opionions out there about this drug. Yes it does replace another drug, but for recovering addicts it can be a lifesaver. Addiction is a horrible desease even some people do not consider it a desease, that will remain with those individuals for life. Some of us have chemical defiencies of the brain that I believe causes addiction. That is why some people acquire the desease and some do not. If I have to stay on suboxone the rest of my life,so be it. Until there is more research to totally understand addiction, this way of treating the desease is great for alot of people.
If someone has diabetes you find the best medicine to treat it, it is the same with the addiction desease.